Thursday, July 16, 2015

About Cluny, doll inspiration, style trends and plagiarism.

Hello everyone!

Upon the release of the pictures of my last doll, ''Cluny'', it has been some comments about her looks, in a different stylistic look than my previous dolls. Someone commented the ressemblance to certain french dolls, specially those of the artist Enaibi. I would like to talk about this issue and present my point of view, since I clearly disagree with the veredict of ''Plagiarism'' that seems to be hanging over my work.
But first of all, the main question you may ask me:


- Is Cluny influenced by Enaibi's works?

OF COURSE she is. And I will add: not only by Enaibi's works; I also like a lot of other artists and doll making brands that have influenced me: Depths Dolls, Tarte Au Citron, Lillycat's, the work of my friend Sther Vivi on her first doll, ''Dreamy'', Irrealdoll, Twigling... I can say this loud and clear; I am not ashamed and have nothing to hide. I've been following and admiring the artists on France and all over the world since years ago, I've attended all the Ldoll conventions since they started, and they played a crucial role on me deciding to start my own doll adventure.

I consider myself well in the european trends. I can also assure that nobody starts sculping out of the blue, inspired by thin air. Not only Cluny has strong inspiration, but ALL MY DOLLS HAVE. From my very first one, Faun, which strongly ressembles my back then current love, CP Shushu, till Cluny. They all show my progress and change of tastes in the last years.

With Cluny specifically, I always thought on re-creating something with my former master mold of Saoirse, applying what I learnt upon making Maeve's body. And yes, it is obvious, and I won't hide (why should I??) that she has ressemblances and influences to dolls from other artists. But she is also the result of my own experience and hard work. I've been openly showing the pictures of the work in progress since December, and I never had anything hidden or sneaky here.


- What can you tell me about the two colored resins?

You mean this picture, right?


To make this, I simply used a basic casting technique that is is used in other resin items, like brand logotypes and keyholders. I was mainly curious to know if I could do it cleanly, and how would it work on my doll. I of course am aware that other french artists use this technique in a similar way (specially the white belly!), so this was mainly experimental. May main goal is to be able to create patterns and shapes that won't fade with rubbing, and I can tell you now that I will be making more in the future, perhaps even with more colors.


- So, is Cluny a copy?

NO. Categorically no, and I will prove it. I felt inspired by an aesthetic trend that it is spreading; I loved certain details of specific dolls, disliked some others, and as a ressume, I started to sculpt my doll with a bunch of ideas in my head, seeking for my own input at it and trying to use all the knowledges I gathered upon the creation of my former works. Cluny was built from scratch. I will also kindly note that the words Plagiarism and Copy are very, very serious accusations and does not refer to stylistic similitudes or influences. It involves a direct robbery of another artist work; and then selling it, pretending that it is your own.

AKA- recast, complete or partial.  I know each of us can think in something which relates to this. But it is not my case, and you will see it now.


Enaibi contacted me when she was told about the existence of Cluny, and she had some worrysome comparative photos that made her suspect that Cluny was quite a close copy to her doll, Satyne. If you would see this picture alone, the immediate conclusion could be ''wow, that's really VERY alike''. Because, well, it is.

At the left, the work in prowess I showed of Cluny. At the right, Satyne.



But I was so lucky to have a friend that happens to own a Satyne. She was kind enough to take her to the Barcelona Dolls & Party, and we could take some comparative pictures of both dolls toghether. Look to what happens when the dolls hips are actually side to side:


 Not only the shape, but the angles, the positioning of the pieces, plus all the joints are different.




So I think these pictures show clearly that Cluny is not a copy of Satyne. They share certain features, and that's obvious: a flat chest, boney hips and furry shoulders. But the whole body shape and structure is different.

Recently I heard that there seems to be another doll that some people find similar to Cluny, again another one of Enaibi's dolls, Airelle. And in this case, the similarities are more ovious since they share very peculiar feature in the lower train: thick calves and big feet. In this case, I am not lucky enough to have an Airelle nearby to take comparative pictures with my doll; but I have seen her in person and I know positively that she is much larger and heavier. Her proportions are very different, and this is easy to show if you make a picture of them standing side to side, since they both are exactly the same height (31cm).

If you would see both dolls separatedly, you could again think that the bodies look extremely similar (besides heads,  which are clearly different in size and style. But if you could put both dolls toghether, then the differences are way more obvious:




Cluny is obviously lighter and thinner. And I am sure that if I would have the chance to photograph her side to side with Airelle, differences would be even more evident. Cluny is way smaller and slender, her joints are different, and the overall construction of the doll is simply not the same.

So, as a conclussion to all this: You won't hear me negating influences, neither on Cluny or on any other of my dolls. I always loved the flowing curves and the soft movement, and that was my main goal with this doll, not ''to make her as alike as I can!''. All my dolls are built from scratch (If anything, I modify and mix-match my own pieces, like in this case), and therefore, they are the result of my work. Similarities don't make copies. Honestly, I see daily in the ABJD market dolls and doll bodies that look alike among themselves much more than my doll looks to others, and nobody seeks for plagiarism. They are trends and influences, and yet, each sculptor's characteritics show through the whole process.


Many large male bodies share common characteristics

And many MSD kid bodies do, too. These are just some examples.

I must say I am a bit concerned of how happy-trigger people are these days with this issue. I perceive an increasing paranoia looking foor copies, similitudes, and people to accuse. It is like some kind of Witch Hunt, that in my opinion has been triggered by the boom of the ''do it yourself'' in the BJD world, and the afluence of many more artists and new ideas. And new revisions of old ideas. Many of my doll makers friend have privately said to me how scared they are to try this or that body joint, or these other features, because ''they will be accused of copying''. I honestly dislike this mood, and i think that the more artists are evolving and creating new stuff, as long as they do it in a legitimate way, the better for we all. And the more audience that we will drag towards our hobby, now a business for many of us. 



In this post, I've said most I had to say about this subject. Both Enaibi and I have been talking personally about it for the last past weeks in emails, and in my opinion, this issue manily concerns the both of us, specially knowing that Cluny started mainly as an artistic project and she was never designed to be sold in large sales, or in a preorder. And still is not.

If someone wants to talk about it further, feel free to adress me. I'm always open to discuss about any issue politely and as I said, I have nothing to hide here. But with this post, I consider this closed on my side, and I will rather move on to other issues.

Best regards, and thanks for reading,

Marta















5 comments:

Unknown said...

I was very saddened by all the negative remarks about your Cluny. To me she definitely was your own creation. And you're so correct--all artists are influenced by others! This reminds of the same type of thing that happened when the little Narae dolls came out. So many people were criticizing them for being a copy of Unoas. To me it was quite obvious that they weren't a copy in any way. I feel the same about Cluny. She is your own unique girl!

There are only so many shapes under the sun. And each person is allowed to make their own version of a specific shape.

As for Cluny, I say, Well done Marta! She is muy, muy bonita!

Jay

Unknown said...

Oops, it said my comment was by "unknown." I thought signing my name was enough but, apparently, not! I hope this will clear it up.

Jay

Miriam clgm said...

Sorry to heard that. You are an artist with many experience at your back. I've studied law and intelectual property I can say your doll is not a copy of nothing. Every doll in this hobby is similar to other one, for instance limwha and supia very similar body and nobody is anonyed. Inspiration in shapes is the way to imrpove and produce new dolls. Similar on body?? strng legs? little waist? Nowadays many many dolls are like this, dollpam for example.
The most important is the full doll, your CLuny is original , has a cute face, mouth, ears, and cute body. OMG who said is a copy was very boried at home!!
Don't worry, pleople like to arguee for everything, arguing in this BJD world about these issues is to tipical and in a week any of them remember it. All goes on,past. You don't feel bad for this, when something similar occurred to Apo I feel bad to for her, many people was attacking and she finally retried for sale her doll. No this time! Strongful! She's original no a plagism or copy or whatever they said.
Que las den y a callarse ! Tu adelante que vales mil!!

Ryina said...

I'm really shocked about this Cluny thing, because I saw her at the Dolls&Party and I thought she was so, so original!! And hey! I still think she is! I see Enaibi's dolls with a total different style. They look far away similar, in a total different way. It's like Peakwoods dolls and Luts.. For me they have similarities, but in a very different style. They could match in a resin family, but I could not think of plagiarism nor copy!!
I can't understand this confusion. When an artists is inspired in someone's art, that's BEAUTIFUL and it should be an honour. In this hobby is some kind of "paranoia" that doesn't allow artists to enjoy that other artists are inspired by their work. "Out there" people enjoy this, they grow bigger thanks to inspiration and make better works... Inspiration helps!
I think you do it grate ^^. Cluny is the evidence! She is wonderful and your hard work and the inspirations you have been catching arround helped you in the process of creating her.
Maybe other bjd artists should learn from you!

Tama said...

"Recently I heard that there seems to be another doll that some people find similar to Cluny, again another one of Enaibi's dolls..."

No, Enaibi showed you pictures of Airelle in her very very first message, at the beginning of July. So it's not like if people see that satyne is so different that they had to find an other doll to prove the heavy inspiration. Personnaly, I never talked about a copy of one doll in particular, but from a style. Body alike, with differents features used by enaibi, and all this thing happens.

Tama